Tag: saddle comfort for men and women

  • 10,000 MILES ON THE WRONG SADDLE.

    How a slow-learned lesson from my mis-spent youth can now help you find the right bike seat quickly and easily.

    As many of us know from hard, painful experience, with the right saddle on your bike you barely think about your seat at all. When it’s not the right one you can barely think of anything else.

    Photo of a view of the Yorkshire Dales, looking at a quiet road with farm gate and cattle grid, with one of the great fells in the background
    The Yorkshire Dales: My butt may have been hurting most of the time, but at least the views made it worth it.



    When I was spending all my spare time touring the Yorkshire Dales in England, my cycling playground as a teen, I rode a certain brand of leather bike saddle. That brand has been revered by generations of touring cyclists – it was the ultimate choice at the time.

    I tried and tried to make that saddle work. I treated it with neat’s foot oil, broke it in and well beyond, tinkered with its position endlessly. Its shape had conformed to me and the leather patina was well worn away by the time I gave up on it. I waited thousands of miles too long to try something else because it was supposed to be the best, and it was a significant purchase for me at the time. I was never really comfortable on it.

    I learned the hard way how unhelpful it can be to choose a bike saddle based on its reputation or a friend’s recommendation. No matter how great other riders think a seat is, we’re all shaped a little differently and it’s your own butt that has to live with the result. It should be your own posterior that guides the decision.

    I should have learned from that experience, but I did it all over again.

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    Photo of a 1980s racing saddle – the brand is blacked out to avoid pointing fingers, but it was the wrong bike saddle for me. I know because I rode it for about 20 years.



    By my late teens I was logging about 10,000 miles a year through the Dales on a fairly spiffy road bike. Many European pros favored a certain model of saddle at that time, and I saved up my pocket money again. It certainly made my bike look fast, and it had a business like firmness and a good shape for climbing, sprinting and everything between.

    It was good for a short ride, but anything over a 50 miler called for extra fortitude. I suppose I just didn’t know there could be a better choice out there – since road racing was hard, maybe saddles were supposed to be this way.

    That saddle stayed on my bike for years after I no longer raced, and slowly discouraged me from riding at all as I found it more uncomfortable to ride even short distances.

    Lucky break: discovering “The World’s Most Comfortable Bike Saddles”

    I finally swapped that torture device for a series of “ergonomic” saddles – an innovative choice that hadn’t been available before. Better, but not great. Fast forward a few more years and finally, as an employee, I discovered Terry saddles.

    Aaaaaahhh!

    In my family we have about 7 bikes between us, and they are all equipped with Terry saddles now. Every single one is about one hundred times more comfortable than either of my sad early choices.

    Your mileage will vary of course, but my own favorites are FLX and FLX Carbon for my road-style commuter and road bike, and Liberator Race for my mountain bike. I’ll be trying out the new Raven saddle this year, which I’m hoping will feel as efficient as the FLX but give me a little more cushion on my commuter.

    As an aside, I also find the Butterfly on my wife’s mountain bike perfectly comfortable – a little piece of anecdotal evidence that the exact width of a saddle is less important than its profile’s accommodation of a variety of riders’ widths.

    Memories of my own pain inspired my quest to get you on the right bike saddle

    I’m lucky – I was able to try a lot of Terry saddles to find the ones that work best for me, but I know our customers don’t have that advantage.

    As the web development guy at Terry, I wanted to create a way for our customers to narrow the choices and find their ideal bike seats. I’m happy to say we now have a Saddle Selector page to help you do just that.

    The team here at Terry worked hard to figure out the essential questions to ask, and exactly how each saddle model matches any particular set of riding preferences.

    Now we have a good answer to the question, “How do I know which is the right bike saddle for me?”

    We think our Saddle Selector works almost as well as a conversation with our saddle recommendation gurus in Terry Customer Service. We tried to make it quick and easy, while still collecting enough detail to make an accurate recommendation.

    Click here to see which bike seat our new Saddle Selector recommends for you. Do let us know what you think!

  • RAVEN: AFFORDABLE, COMFORTABLE BIKE SADDLE.

    Even after more than 30 years of creating saddles at Terry for every type of cycling, there are still opportunities to create a new model that does something no other bike saddle does quite as well. Now, riders looking for a performance saddle with long distance comfort have a new option: the Raven, perhaps our most comfortable bike saddle ever in this category, delivers a premium level of comfort at a surprisingly low price point.

    Even better, the Raven is designed to be an exceptionally comfortable bike saddle for an underserved population: men who would prefer a wider saddle and women who would benefit from a narrower one.

    Simplicity Meets Intelligence In Our Newest, Amazingly Affordable & Comfortable Bike Saddle – The Raven

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    Ever wonder what goes into making a comfortable bike saddle, well… comfortable?

    Let’s take a look behind the scenes and see how the Raven was transformed from an idea in a product development meeting to a finished bike saddle, ready to help riders “put more smiles in their miles!”

    Our development team saw a need for a performance saddle that sits between our FLX line – pure, minimal, elite performance – and the Butterfly series – performance with more width and padding. This would be a comfortable bike saddle for performance riders who wanted a little more supportive cushioning than the FLX, and a narrower profile than the Butterfly.

    The team settled on a creative brief for the new bike saddle calling for these essential features:

    • Comfortable saddle appearance – soft contours and inviting shape.
    • Comfortable feeling – foam volume and density tuned for comfort.
    • Supportive cushioning without bulk for performance.
    • Pressure relief channel and a drop nose.
    • Clean, economical construction.
    • Lightweight, durable rails.
    • MSRP under $90.

    Designing the Most Comfortable Bike Saddle: Less is More

    The design process begins with sketches, where the designer can experiment with translating the list of features into a dimensional form, and work out details of the saddle’s appearance.

    Simplicity had been a goal for this saddle all along, from both the esthetic and production points of view. As the team worked with their ideas the saddle took on its own personality – classic, refined, and purely functional. A minimalist approach, minimizing waste and bulk, and eliminating non-essentials all felt just right.

    This aligned nicely with wider trends, where more and more of us are making choices to simplify our increasingly complex lives. As Nik Holm, Director of Supply Chain Operations at Terry and design lead on the Raven project, puts it, “If you buy into this idea of buying less but buying quality, every thing you have has a purpose; you desire every thing to perform beautifully. The Raven Saddle is an offspring of that desire.”

    An unadorned black cover seemed to be the natural choice, and when the name “Raven” emerged it was clearly a great fit – the personality and appearance of the saddle was well in tune with many of the distinctive qualities of these highly intelligent, playful birds. (See why ravens inspired the team’s creative juices with this clip.)

    comfortable bike saddle Raven prototype modeling in clay

    “Hands-On” Development of Form and Function

    From sketches the designer moves on to models, where shape and proportions are worked out and refined. The quickest, most direct way to model a saddle is with clay.

    Nik made a series of clay models, building onto a saddle base developed by our manufacturing partner, selected to meet the requirements of the brief. He explains, “These first 6 or so iterations are as hands on as you can get, feeling every curve of the saddle with wet, clay-filled hands. Intermittently testing with a caliper allows us to see where one’s sit bones will be positioned on the saddle.”

    The shape of the cutout and channel evolved significantly through the modeling process. The first rendition from sketches did not look comfortable at all. We opted to develop a more functional channel that extends from the front to the rear for both pressure relief for the coccyx in the aft, and on the perineum, blood vessels, and nerves on the fore.

    New Technology Delivers Manufacturing Efficiency

    Once the right shape had been sculpted, a 3D scan was made from the final clay model. The digitized design could be refined through 3D modeling to smooth out any irregularities and fine tune the shape.

    completed clay model for comfortable bike saddle Raven development

    Our manufacturer used the 3D files to make molds for foam injection, and used those to make a series of complete prototypes.

    Foam density is measured with a shore durometer. There are only a few standard shore densities for saddle foams in the industry and we always start out with the denser versions. The denser the foam, the more support it will provide you on a longer ride. Then, we experiment with other densities and with gel.

    At each step the team evaluated the prototype and made refinements until, at last, the goals of the design brief were fully realized.

    The Raven is being made in Taiwan, where new technology from one of our long-time saddle makers gives us options for cost efficiency that haven’t been available before.

    Nik Holm again: “You will notice that the base of the saddle is completely clean. For the first time, a Terry saddle doesn’t have any glue or staples appearing on the bottom of the saddle. We can achieve this by vacuum molding a flat black cover over the foam before it is attached to the substrate. By doing this, there are no points of the saddle that are stiffer than others, which is prone to happen when you hand stretch a cover over a saddle.”

    At 150mm wide, the Raven is a little narrower than our typical women’s saddles, and slightly wider than our men’s. It has a slim profile, which allows more room for pelvic tilt and bulk reduction. At 265mm it is a bit longer than a typical women’s saddle allowing for more movement and control. With its anatomic cutout and full length pressure relief channel, the Raven provides excellent comfort in multiple riding positions.

    We were able to create a single saddle model that meets the comfort needs of a wider group of riders, and reduces manufacturing steps and materials to bare essentials. The result: the new Raven delivers higher levels of comfort and performance at a lower price point than any of its competitors.

    The Real-World Test – You Decide

    Is the Raven truly the most comfortable bike saddle in our performance category?

    The most meaningful measure of success for a saddle is always the positive outcomes achieved for its riders. Since the Raven is a new product we will have to wait for customers to log miles and hours on the Raven to know how well we did in their eyes.

    We hope their stories and reviews will confirm the opinions of our in-house testers. Their feedback makes us very optimistic. This comment from Jeannette Segale, one of our Customer Service gurus, sums it up nicely:

    Here’s my feedback after riding the Raven prototype:

    Pros– Incredible comfort, no pressure points or chafing. Remained comfortable throughout 2-1/2 hour ride. Kept waiting for the usual mid-ride discomfort to happen, but it never did.

    Cons– None, other than I had to remove it from my bike.

    Our bike saddles, especially the Butterfly, Fly and Liberator lines, have set the benchmark for comfortable bike saddles for many cyclists. We think the Raven may continue this tradition, by being one of our most comfortable bike saddles yet, and an outstanding value.

    As Nik says, “The Raven was designed to be a simple, durable, performance saddle. I believe it is so much more and I hope you can experience its elegance and find comfort in its simplicity.”

    Browse and buy the Raven saddle here. Be sure to let us know how you like it!

  • TERRY INTRODUCES NEW BUTTERFLY AND FLY CENTURY.

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

    Terry Introduces New Butterfly and Fly Century – with Poron XRD shock absorption.

    Designed to take comfort up a notch for longer distance riders, Terry will introduce completely new Century versions of its Butterfly and Fly saddles at Interbike (booth #17166). Engineered with a layer of Poron XRD shock absorbing material between the saddles’ base and foam layers, the new Centuries will reduce road shock and allow for a thinner layer of foam and narrower overall saddle profile, without loss of rider comfort. Additionally, each version will feature a wider cutaway, sculpted foam for pressure relief in key areas and seamless Lorica cover that reduces the incidence of high cadence chafing.

    PORON XRD, a patented material used in MTB pads, gloves and footwear, is unique in its ability to consistently absorb and dissipate energy (road shock), impact after impact, while remaining comfortable. At rest or under low pressure, PORON XRD material reacts much like a slow recovery foam (similar to Tempur-Pedic® mattresses). It easily conforms to the body and is very comfortable on/against the body. But under high strain rates (ex: quickly hitting the material), the PORON XRD molecules instantly stiffen, forming a comfortable protective shell and spreading the energy over a larger area, thus protecting the body from the impact.

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    SPECS
    Butterfly Length x Width: 262mm x 152mm
    Fly Length x Width: 277mm x 140mm
    Butterfly Weight: 8.8oz / 249g
    Fly Weight: 8.7oz / 247g
    Rails: Ti-nox
    Cover: Lorica
    Price: $82 wholesale 
$164 suggested retail

    The Butterfly and Fly Century will be available in April, 2014.

    ABOUT TERRY
    Terry is the Original Women’s Bicycling Company, dedicated to getting more women riding bikes. Terry saddles for women and men have been improving the ride for all levels of cyclists for 20 years and are distributed by better bike shops and major retailers across the US. From serious gear to recreational fun, Terry positions itself as a brand for enthusiasts, where technical performance and feminine style ride in tandem.

    Click to download the full release: Century Saddle Press Release

    For more information, contact:
    Terry marketing director, Paula Dyba
    paula@terrybicycles.com, 585-415-3849.